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| * When writing their lived experience, should the person sign their (user)name? I understand some might not want to have their experience linked to them, so maybe the guidelines could mention that you can put your username if you wish to? I also understand that that might make the articles a bit clunky/harder to navigate --[[User:Fire Eider|Fire Eider]] ([[User talk:Fire Eider|talk]]) 16:37, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
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| * How do we do citations? I tried to fix [[Overlapping_neurotypes]] but I don't know if that looks right. I want some more info before I fix other pages, please
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| :: It looks good to me --[[User:Fire Eider|Fire Eider]] ([[User talk:Fire Eider|talk]])
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| == Citing community consensus ==
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| How should we assert "distilled wisdom" such as ABA being harmful? (It seems important to do so, see e.g. this thread: https://twitter.com/WIRblog/status/1563002859246956544)
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| We could use phrases like "Many people within the autistic community agree that...", but we want to avoid "false controversies" (thanks @fochti for this phrase!) where it seems like there's disagreement on a topic when really there's broad agreement.
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| Much of what the #ActuallyAutistic community has done is share our experiences until we collectively distill certain things that seem broadly true to us.
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| === Special citations for asserting community consensus ===
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| One possibility would be to have have certain special citations:
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| [community-consensus]: means there's rough community consensus within the #ActuallyAutistic community
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| [community-controversy]: means there's meaningful controversy within the #ActuallyAutistic community; sizeable groups on more than one side
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| [experimental-theory]: experimental theory, not yet tested and accepted or rejected by the #ActuallyAutistic community at large
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| Examples:
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| - ABA is harmful [community-consensus] [1] [2] [3]
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| - Most people within the #ActuallyAutistic community prefer identity-first language [community-consensus]
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| - Masking isn't worth it [community-controversy]
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| - Monotropism explains everything about autism [experimental-theory]
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| === Special language for asserting community consensus ===
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| Alternatively we could write out certain key phrases:
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| - There's consensus within the #ActuallyAutistic community that ABA is harmful.
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| - There's consensus within the #ActuallyAutistic community that most autists within the #ActuallyAutistic community prefer identity-first language
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| - There's controversy within the community about whether masking is worth it
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| - There's an experimental theory that monotropism explains everything
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| Writing out the phrases feels a bit wordy, and also shoves the content of the sentence to the end. Could also be written the other way around:
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| - ABA is harmful, according to rough consensus within the community.
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| - Most people within the #ActuallyAutistic prefer identity-first language, according to rough consensus within the community.
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| But this still feels wordy. I think I like the special citation form.
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| === Citation storms ===
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| Another possibility (which we could do in addition to using tags like [community-consensus]) would be to have "citation storms", where we maybe cite like 50 or 100 Twitter threads of lived experience of #ActuallyAutistic people.
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| But a citation storm can't stand in for something like [community-consensus] tags, because a citation storm on its own doesn't assert that there aren't other popular views within the community.
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| --[[User:AutExplorer|AutExplorer]] ([[User talk:AutExplorer|talk]]) 15:07, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
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